Is braid ban fair on white girl?

[Natural_Mystic]

A TEENAGER HAS been suspended from school - for following the fashion for braided hair.

Olivia Acton, 13, was told that the style, as popularised by double gold medallist Dame Kelly Holmes, was 'too extreme' for the strict uniform policy.

She can return to the classroom only if she unpicks her tight plaits. Two black pupils are allowed similar hairstyles which 'reflect their cultural heritage,' the school says. Olivia, from Alcrington, Manchester, has been learning at home since her hair was braided last month on a family holiday.

Her father, Michael, asked: 'How can the school discriminate between a white person having a haircut like that and a black person?'

But Middleton Technology College head teacher Allison Crompton defended her decision. 'We don't allow any extreme hairstyles of any description at the school.

'We are a high-achieving school with high standards and we don't allow any street culture into school,' she said. 'If we didn't allow some leeway for their cultural background, it would be discriminatory.'

Rochdale Council said the school should concentrate on what goes into students' heads - 'and not what is on their heads'.

taken from Here (http://www.metro.co.uk/metro/standard/article.html?in_article_id=23786&in_page_id=1)

[Smile]

This is my take on that story. Whether the style is sported by Kelly Holmes is irrelevent, she ain't in school...black kids braid their hair all the time where as white kids don't-it's more of a fashion statment. Then again it shouldn't really matter

Certain allowances are made for kids of certain races. even though it deflects from the norm of the school..muslim kids are allowed to wear their hijabs, Jehovah Witness kids don't take part in school plays, black boys and girls braid their hair, white kids don't


I remember back in Grenada one girl plucked her eyebrows, she was told to shave everything off then stay home till they grew back ( :laugh: )

[SouthernBelle]

A TEENAGER HAS been suspended from school - for following the fashion for braided hair.

Olivia Acton, 13, was told that the style, as popularised by double gold medallist Dame Kelly Holmes, was 'too extreme' for the strict uniform policy.

She can return to the classroom only if she unpicks her tight plaits. Two black pupils are allowed similar hairstyles which 'reflect their cultural heritage,' the school says. Olivia, from Alcrington, Manchester, has been learning at home since her hair was braided last month on a family holiday.

Her father, Michael, asked: 'How can the school discriminate between a white person having a haircut like that and a black person?'

But Middleton Technology College head teacher Allison Crompton defended her decision. 'We don't allow any extreme hairstyles of any description at the school.

'We are a high-achieving school with high standards and we don't allow any street culture into school,' she said. 'If we didn't allow some leeway for their cultural background, it would be discriminatory.'

Rochdale Council said the school should concentrate on what goes into students' heads - 'and not what is on their heads'.

taken from Here (http://www.metro.co.uk/metro/standard/article.html?in_article_id=23786&in_page_id=1)

no i don't thinks it is fair. why do braids have to be called "street culture"? it's insulting. nobody's hair is growing into braids so it is a hair style...or like her dad called it haircut (that cracked me up). if their strict uniform policy did not state that braids are not acceptable, which it clearly did not, then i don't see the problem.<br><br><br>
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[UrbanGal]

Its just braids; why are they making such a huge deal out of it?

[doncalypso]

The people in charge of that school obviously have too much free time on their hands and too little real issues to deal with if they're gonna expel a kid for braided hair. Talk about fvcked-up priorities.

[AxelFoley]

Interesting...I thought white girls hair couldn't hold braids for too long. I hear these stories about their hair breaking off when they put braids in.

[doncalypso]

Interesting...I thought white girls hair couldn't hold braids for too long. I hear these stories about their hair breaking off when they put braids in.

I dunno about their hair breaking off when they put braids on... but what I know for certain is that white women shed hair like crazy. It's almost as bad is with cats and dogs sometimes.

[UrbanGal]

Interesting...I thought white girls hair couldn't hold braids for too long. I hear these stories about their hair breaking off when they put braids in.


Please get in my thread "Diaspora Leader Evaluation". Thanks. :=-x

[shawwty]

Its just braids; why are they making such a huge deal out of it?

dont eva make the decision to live in the BVI unless u plan to send ur child to a private school.

[shawwty]

ALL OF YOU. if u wish to stay away from crap like this...:laugh: Doh bring yuh children here to live. At leat don't send them to BVI high school. Cause the crap that they send u home for in there now is VERY much like this situation AND IT'S A PUBLIC SCHOOL:2eek:.

[UrbanGal]

ALL OF YOU. if u wish to stay away from crap like this...:laugh: Doh bring yuh children here to live. At leat don't send them to BVI high school. Cause the crap that they send u home for in there now is VERY much like this situation AND IT'S A PUBLIC SCHOOL:2eek:.

Do they still have those insane policies on dreads?

[shawwty]

Do they still have those insane policies on dreads?

naw... that law was abolished with the election of the new government. The boys just cant have their hair plat and when i was leavin high school i beleive they were telling them to cut it off:2ee:. (rastas exempted of course)

[darkie]

wah de ass. i woulda tell dem to come and comb my chile hard head EVERY day of de week in a decent and "suitable way for school. den dey woulda let she come to school how ever de ass she want. let dem hull dey tail yes.

[grenchild]

That is just simply crazy and to me a tad bit racist and sterotypical

[darkie]

tad bit??


:laugh:

[missreds]

lmao :lol_rolli and i know you as serious as a heart attack I dunno about their hair breaking off when they put braids on... but what I know for certain is that white women shed hair like crazy. It's almost as bad is with cats and dogs sometimes.

[missreds]

same goes with black boys who have patterned hair cuts zig zags and all kind of lines cut into their hair also if your hair is cut too low the school may send them home till it grows back :nah:
if the white gilr wanna braid she hair do out school hours simple tings :nah: This is my take on that story. Whether the style is sported by Kelly Holmes is irrelevent, she ain't in school...black kids braid their hair all the time where as white kids don't-it's more of a fashion statment. Then again it shouldn't really matter

Certain allowances are made for kids of certain races. even though it deflects from the norm of the school..muslim kids are allowed to wear their hijabs, Jehovah Witness kids don't take part in school plays, black boys and girls braid their hair, white kids don't


I remember back in Grenada one girl plucked her eyebrows, she was told to shave everything off then stay home till they grew back ( :laugh: )

[grenchild]

tad bit??


:laugh:
well i didn't wanna go to the extreme :laugh:

[darkie]

same goes with black boys who have patterned hair cuts zig zags and all kind of lines cut into their hair also if your hair is cut too low the school may send them home till it grows back :nah:
if the white gilr wanna braid she hair do out school hours simple tings :nah:too low? wtf? i know dey might tell yuh yuh hair too high....but low??

[missreds]

serious ting darkie i kid yah not :nono
it's usually the church run schools :shame: too low? wtf? i know dey might tell yuh yuh hair too high....but low??

[darkie]

tsk tsk tsk :shame:

[missreds]

dittotsk tsk tsk :shame:

[Gillion]

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Unfortunately, columbine has set the trend.

Extreme conformity is now something that makes people feel comfortable.

It is a method of control... where there is the idea that if ecverybody look the same then cliques can't form and it reduces in school violence.

I think it is extreme and silly

But fear is the new theme
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[Kaydee]

I really dont see the big problem.....i know school have a dress code and all but that's taking it to far.....when did telling someone how they should braid or comb their hair become part of a dress code.....last time i checked as long as it's groomed well it shouldnt be a problem.....but that's just my opinion....

[missreds]

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Unfortunately, columbine has set the trend.

Extreme conformity is now something that makes people feel comfortable.

It is a method of control... where there is the idea that if ecverybody look the same then cliques can't form and it reduces in school violence.

I think it is extreme and silly

But fear is the new theme
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[shawwty]

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Unfortunately, columbine has set the trend.

Extreme conformity is now something that makes people feel comfortable.

It is a method of control... where there is the idea that if ecverybody look the same then cliques can't form and it reduces in school violence.

I think it is extreme and silly

But fear is the new theme
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that's exactly what those retarded principals at bvi high school believe their strict rules will do.:shame:..... is only now deh chirren gettin out a hand. Buncha DUMB POOPS!

rules i must add, that have been in place for almost 5 years... and still no positive results. WOW... i really feel kinda better now knowing that we aint the only children that had to deal with this kinda nonsense. Giving parents bigger headaches over the way their children looked, than the headaches they get over their grades. Thas just a damn shame.:shame:
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[Gillion]

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Once you dress like everyone else you feel you belong to the group.

Ever since the shootings at Columbine, there has been lots of talk as to how best to ensure that the "different kids" or the "strange kids" dont get the chance to feed their "outcast natures" and conform to some standard that the "normal kids" accept.

It is an attempt to bring military discipline into schools so that parents who fear that their "normal" kids will get "hurt by "abnormal ones".

This means no street, punk rock, metal, rap etc cultures.
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[Gillion]

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Individuality is bad for some because that indviduality may mean somebody dressing in full black or having their hair in braids with gree strings and yellow beads.

Look at the uproar the Venus sisters created in the tenis world ?

same thing in schools.

Individulaity once ifferent from the "norm" is going to be challenged by those who deem themselves as the vanguard of popular.

Typical examples ... some black kids will pick on other black kids that are bright and say they re acting white if they speak "standard" english....

Thus the GODS of education feel it is best to force everyone onto a mold and not allow social and personality signiatures to stand out among individuals.

Example... hese GODS beleive that uniforms prevent the immediate distiction between rich kids and poor.

Thus poor kids won't become staturated and feel bad.
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[Zinyia]

It's a style for these white girls, nothin more nothin less. If de school principles is to cut out style for whatever reason then it's their right to say it goes :nah:. That's my opinion. If she don't like it leh she take it up in court.

[karibspices]

if it is identified as street culture style when the white girl wear it, does that mean it is okay-- even acceptable for the blacks who attend the school, to be associated with "street style"?

That is my bigger problem with this whole thing....

Also, if this is a high achievement school as they claim, then her intelligence should not fail her no matter what style she wears. Plus, it have to come out some time.

[Natural_Mystic]

It's very simple ........... this country is gettin sick of seeing their whites kids become "urbanized" (dem words not mine) it's scaring dem half to death, from the baggy clothes to the hairstyles to the "urban music" they can't take it!

[karibspices]

It's very simple ........... this country is gettin sick of seeing their whites kids become "urbanized" (dem words not mine) it's scaring dem half to death, from the baggy clothes to the hairstyles to the "urban music" they can't take it!


yep, same here

[Natural_Mystic]

yep, same here

sh!t couple months ago they wanted to ban "street speech" from schools

[karibspices]

really? and what is that exactly?

and you supposed to police it? :nah:

[Natural_Mystic]

really? and what is that exactly?

and you supposed to police it? :nah:
usually a blend of jafakian/cockney slang/US twisted chopped an screwed hiphop terms!
the teachers would police i guess :nah:
all i know is i would never raise a child in dis country fuh ras!

perfect example of how phucked up they talk go HERE (http://www.xlrecordings.com/broadcast/~offtowork/)
an watch the video an listen to what he's sayin (if you can take it after 10 secs)

[A.savage]

Pure shyte

[SEXYSKGYAL]

That is just simply crazy and to me a tad bit racist and sterotypical


I second that.

[karibspices]

wuddi rass is dat I seeing?

:walk:

*****

oh, yeah, Mysticman, in case you forget, you getting old and still in the UK....

[Natural_Mystic]

wuddi rass is dat I seeing?

:walk:

*****

oh, yeah, Mysticman, in case you forget, you getting old and still in the UK....

an me nah leave till i rape this country for all it worth in the short time i will be here, an will continue bun fyah on it all day, everyday

[karibspices]

mind your shoes don't catch fire, man....

I hear Capleton set fire to everting and end up cooking a hamburger :laugh:

[Smile]

same goes with black boys who have patterned hair cuts zig zags and all kind of lines cut into their hair also if your hair is cut too low the school may send them home till it grows back :nah:
if the white gilr wanna braid she hair do out school hours simple tings :nah:

yeah I know about the too low thing...my nephew goes to Gunnersbury and they have that insane policy

[Gillion]

It's very simple ........... this country is gettin sick of seeing their whites kids become "urbanized" (dem words not mine) it's scaring dem half to death, from the baggy clothes to the hairstyles to the "urban music" they can't take it!
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All of a sudden I hear Eminems "White America" playing in my head.

Bredd that is the <h1>TRUTH</h1>

Probelm is... black people are just too damn cool :laugh:
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[shawwty]

:laugh:

[Gillion]

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There was big scare in the US in the 1990's about <h1> Wiggers /Wiggaz</h1> (white niggaz)

White kids that embraced balck culture and walked talked and acted it. It was only news because the "upper class" had issues with it. Then when the fad died down it wasn't a problem. Now only poor white kids do the "wigger" thing.

And since they are poor no one cares.

Especially if they live in mostly black areas.

The only time the lager white bread society cares is when one of these poor white kids or "wiggers" makes a break like say "eminem" and has a voice... thennnnn you get problems.

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[Gillion]

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DAMN THESE BLACK PEOPLE AND THEIR CULTURE !!!
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All of a sudden a scottish river dance is no longer enough culture for our kids.
Our culture is dying because of this jiggaboo influence.... we must stop it at all turns.

-- signed --
Frightend old white man that still wears a kilt.

[prettidahlin]

As long as a child is clean and presentable, it should not be a problem...regardless of race.

[solja]

aye mison, dem deh full of f__k...........


on the other hand..it's always one way versus the next...the old suit wearing farts..always pushing up their noses at the young people dem..

same thing i see everyday on st.croix..old people rather turn down all youth man that come for a job and wait for an old man....that's why we wilding out and crazy on cruz!


WHERE THIS IS IN bvi?...them people over there in the system have some old fart knocker standards u hear!!!--the whole thing about u can't come there if u have locks,i won't be surprised the kind of b.s they push on the people in dem deh countries

[prettidahlin]

Certain allowances are made for kids of certain races. even though it deflects from the norm of the school..muslim kids are allowed to wear their hijabs, Jehovah Witness kids don't take part in school plays, black boys and girls braid their hair, white kids don't


My problem with those ideas is that sometimes things differ for people...

My family has friends who are a 'white' family. The father is White and the mother is 1/4 Hawaiian 3/4 White. Their first son has darker skin and straignt dark hair. The other son and daughter have dirty blonde hair and paler skin.

But the daughter hair, though straight and blonde is thick and heavy. She uses black hair products and her mother often braids her hair because it is easier that way. Also, Hawaiians often have their hair in one/two long braids...and the mother's family is still very much Hawaiian and so are the children.

How can a school tell her that she ought not to braid her hair?

[Smile]

My problem with those ideas is that sometimes things differ for people...

My family has friends who are a 'white' family. The father is White and the mother is 1/4 Hawaiian 3/4 White. Their first son has darker skin and straignt dark hair. The other son and daughter have dirty blonde hair and paler skin.

But the daughter hair, though straight and blonde is thick and heavy. She uses black hair products and her mother often braids her hair because it is easier that way. Also, Hawaiians often have their hair in one/two long braids...and the mother's family is still very much Hawaiian and so are the children.

How can a school tell her that she ought not to braid her hair?


^that's too technical for England :laugh: but I get your point however, I think in this case the school has acted up (as with another case where a white kid went on a holiday and came back with her hair braided) because it's not the norm for white kids to wear their hair in such intricate styles

[Gillion]

My problem with those ideas is that sometimes things differ for people...

My family has friends who are a 'white' family. The father is White and the mother is 1/4 Hawaiian 3/4 White. Their first son has darker skin and straignt dark hair. The other son and daughter have dirty blonde hair and paler skin.

But the daughter hair, though straight and blonde is thick and heavy. She uses black hair products and her mother often braids her hair because it is easier that way. Also, Hawaiians often have their hair in one/two long braids...and the mother's family is still very much Hawaiian and so are the children.

How can a school tell her that she ought not to braid her hair?


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rule of thumb with many societies.

you either fit in the mold that they make or you or you leave.

don't come with any dynamics to make use re-structure it.

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[prettidahlin]

^that's too technical for England :laugh: but I get your point however, I think in this case the school has acted up (as with another case where a white kid went on a holiday and came back with her hair braided) because it's not the norm for white kids to wear their hair in such intricate styles

Yea...I guess so. I could imagine the looks on those teachers faces. But thats good though...they need to be shaken up once in awhile. :happy:

[Zinyia]

Just to reiterate, private schools really have this notion that conformity enhances discipline. Now not to say that Mystic doesn't have a point, because I am sure that is part of it. I went through highschool like that, like shawtty described as well.

[Gillion]

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The idea is this.
If you cannot ignore your individuality for a whole. If you cannot put aside your own comfort zone to fit in with the rest of the oganism (school) then how will you fit in society ?
You are to sacrifice for the system you are part of and become one of the bees in the hive.

If you can do this and do it well, then that means you can exert discipline over your needs and wants and such a well self controlled individual is a blessing.

The military has proven that the system works 99% of the time.
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[prettidahlin]

rule of thumb with many societies.

you either fit in the mold that they make or you or you leave.

don't come with any dynamics to make use re-structure it.



Yea, that's that way it is...

[missreds]

:lol_rolli :lol_rolli mi rass dat's da school i talking bout my son goes deh too yeah I know about the too low thing...my nephew goes to Gunnersbury and they have that insane policy

[missreds]

cp family y'all dun find it time fe all ah we to chip in an buy mystic a plane ticket :laugh: an me nah leave till i rape this country for all it worth in the short time i will be here, an will continue bun fyah on it all day, everyday

[Natural_Mystic]

mind your shoes don't catch fire, man....

I hear Capleton set fire to everting and end up cooking a hamburger :laugh:

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Natural_Mystic]

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All of a sudden I hear Eminems "White America" playing in my head.

Bredd that is the <h1>TRUTH</h1>

Probelm is... black people are just too damn cool :laugh:
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exactly!! with the explosion of HipHop and "urban" flavor garbage oops garage here on the infamous channel U, these white kids, just suckin it up. I was in Luton 1 hr outside London, and it was funny to see all these kids walkin the street in hoodies, from the back lookin like "black hoodlums" but when you see the faces it's like 5 white boys, one black and the older white heads lookin at them like they are the scum of the earth, it's funny as hell!

[Gillion]

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Wait until white girls start getting pregnant in droves for black boys.

then CNN/BBC going to create long news programs on the "CRISIS"
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[Natural_Mystic]

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Wait until white girls start getting pregnant in droves for black boys.

then CNN/BBC going to create long news programs on the "CRISIS"
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already happened!
Several documentaries of TV about the indentity crisis of "brown/beige" babies

[tlapartna]

already happened!
Several documentaries of TV about the indentity crisis of "brown/beige" babies

How many a dem yours Mystic lol

[Natural_Mystic]

How many a dem yours Mystic lol
:lol_rolli :lol_rolli

[karibspices]

thats not an answer :nono

[Natural_Mystic]

thats not an answer :nono
:laugh: :laugh:

[karibspices]

so all of this is your fault.. okay....

[prettidahlin]

already happened!
Several documentaries of TV about the indentity crisis of "brown/beige" babies

I does only want to do some ah dem children hair...

:walk:

[Natural_Mystic]

so all of this is your fault.. okay....

how yah figure that one deh :laugh:

[karibspices]

it was in the 2nd verse :laugh:

[Natural_Mystic]

yah mad ras :D

[Smile]

:lol_rolli :lol_rolli mi rass dat's da school i talking bout my son goes deh too

I dun know dat arready.... :D